AIN Blog: Memorable Moments with Business Jet Travelers
Here are five memorable BJT interview moments.
James Carville, being interviewed for Business Jet Traveler (Photo: Bill Bernstein)

During my journalism career, I’ve interviewed everyone from Bruce Springsteen (back when he could walk down the street unrecognized) to a Ku Klux Klan leader (who was arrested on kidnapping and weapons charges soon after we met). But none of my interviews have been more fascinating than the ones I’ve conducted with prominent bizav users at Business Jet Traveler, AIN’s sister publication.

Here, in no particular order, are my picks for five of the most memorable moments.

1. Michael Harrah: Thirty-five years after Harrah started his business with just a carpenter’s toolkit and a dream, he was one of the largest commercial real estate developers in the U.S., with a net worth of $400 million and a fleet of aircraft. But when I asked whether he ever flew commercially–say, for international trips–he said, “The farthest I’ve ever flown is Hawaii.” “You’ve never been abroad at all?” I asked. “No,” said the 55-year-old Harrah. “I’m a homegrown boy and I like it here...Also, I’m a workaholic and…it’s very hard for me to spend time away.” He wasn’t kidding. When I asked what would be a good time to phone him with follow-up questions, he said, “Call me anytime. We start work at 4 in the morning and go home at 9 at night.”

2. James CarvilleI noted that he’d said Republicans “lie like a rug” and are “a pack of crooks” and asked how he could reconcile such views with his marriage to a Republican, the political consultant Mary Matalin. First he said that the lines I’d quoted were partly about “selling books.” Then he suggested that while Republicans have done “really stupid things,” not every member of the party was equally guilty. Finally, he smiled and said, “Plus, I love my wife so I excuse things that I otherwise wouldn’t.”

3. F. Lee Bailey: Having represented Patty Hearst, the so-called Boston Strangler and O.J. Simpson, among many others, Bailey has had one of the most fascinating and successful legal careers of the past half-century. I was surprised to hear him still insist in 2009 that Simpson was innocent–but even more surprised when he told me that if he’d had his life to do over, he would have preferred a career in aviation.

4. David Neeleman: JetBlue’s founder talked to me about his anti-materialistic views and his belief that “it seemed hoggish of me to have all this stuff when others didn’t.” So I asked how he reconciled that attitude with his $14 million Connecticut mansion. “I don’t,” he said. “It’s my wife’s mansion. I never would have built that, ever. I think she’s repentant.”

5. Jack DeBoer: DeBoer became the country’s second-largest multi-family developer at a young age, then vastly enlarged his fortune by founding such hospitality chains as Residence Inns and Candlewood Hotel Corporation. Those operations both have midtown New York City locations, so I wondered why DeBoer was staying at the nearby Waldorf-Astoria when we met. “Good question,” he said with a laugh. “Actually I have a better rate here. Residence Inn is $500. It’s $400 here.”

 
Jeff Burger
Editor, Business Jet Traveler
About the author

Jeff Burger joined Business Jet Traveler in March 2004, a few months after the publication’s launch. Besides editing the magazine, he has written many articles for it and conducted its interviews with such luminaries as Sir Richard Branson, James Carville, Suze Orman, Donald Trump, F. Lee Bailey, and Steve Van Zandt. Burger helped to oversee the introduction of BJT’s annual Readers' Choice surveys and Buyers’ Guide.

During his years with the magazine, it has won well over a hundred editorial awards. In 2011, Burger received the Gold Wing Award for Reporting Excellence from the National Business Aviation Association and the Aviation Journalism Award from the National Air Transportation Association. He has also won writing and editing awards from the American Society of Business Publication Editors. BJT, meanwhile, was named Best International Publication in 2017 in the Aerospace Media Awards. It was also a Magazine of the Year finalist in 2011, 2013, and 2016 and an Overall Excellence winner in 2018 in competitions sponsored by the American Society of Business Publication Editors.

Before coming to BJT, Burger spent 14 years at Medical Economics, the nation’s leading business magazine for doctors, where he served on the editorial board; directed staff recruiting; oversaw a $2 million annual budget; and was financial editor, news editor, and director of special projects. He has been editor of several publications, including Phoenix Magazine in Arizona, and has been a consulting editor at Time Inc. His articles have appeared in more than 75 magazines and newspapers, among them The Los Angeles TimesBarron’s, Reader’s Digest, Gentlemen’s Quarterly , and Family Circle. Chicago Review Press published his books, Springsteen on Springsteen: Interviews, Speeches, and Encounters, Leonard Cohen on Leonard Cohen: Interviews and Encounter, Lennon on Lennon: Conversations with John Lennon, and Dylan on Dylan: Interviews and Encounters. His music writing appears on multiple websites, including his own byjeffburger.com.

Burger, a summa cum laude graduate of the State University of New York at Albany, lives in Ridgewood, N.J. He and his wife, Madeleine, have two grown children. His off-hours passions include cooking, travel, technology, movies, and music.

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